Dear people,
thanks again for all the thoughtfulness and interaction you brought to the course this session. Your presentation grades are with Lynn in the school office on level 3 Webster. For those that presented in week 11 a big apology for the scribble and please ensure that each member of the group receives the feedback. For those presenting today week 12 I have made copies of the grade template but please ensure that everyone in your group gets the handwritten feedback as well... I do translations if needed.
My very best to each of you.
Ed Scheer
May 26, 2010
Reflections on Debate 2 (WEEK 3)
TOPIC:
"Live V Mediated... Performance is a 'competitive opposition at the level of cultural economy', not at the level of intrinsic or ontological differences."
DEBATE TWO:
Affirmative Speaker 1 - ?
- Argued that many cinematic techniques of editing (eg. fade-ins/outs) were derived from theatrical techniques.
- Suggested that the big screens at concert performances bring audiences closer to the 'live' spectacles.
- Argued the two are becoming closer together, co-dependent.
- TV was an attempt to bring the experience of the theatre into the home.
- Hard to understand/no new arguments.
Negative Speaker 1 - ?
- Used the old, traditional definition of 'live' as used by Auslander.
- Argued strongly for the distinction between a TV broadcast and the physical, temporal sharing of space with the performer acting out the performance - being present in the 'now' of the performance.
Affirmative Speaker 2 - ?
- Argued for the implementation of mediatised aspects in sport - ie. dependence upon a video umpire in cricket.
- Argued that performers act out moves choreographer for music videos, mimicking other performers, etc. - this is remediation.
- Argued for 'types' of liveness, with different ways of identifying with live performances, ie. 'social' and Internet liveness, becoming (in the case of the Internet) interactive with a computer interface.
- In our modern culture, all relative definitions of liveness - time, space, intimacy - are no longer fixed, thus in today's world, live and mediatised go hand-in-hand.
Negative Speaker 2 - Laura
- Argued for two separate forms - in order for them to be dependant, they must be two things co-existing.
- Peggy Phelan - 'created space' and 'intended atmosphere' lost from mediatised performances.
- 'Sensorial' experience - onstage cooking, emotional stories and sharing the food with the audience. This creates a unique live experience. Taste and smell provoked - physical as well as emotional affect.
Affirmative Speaker 3 - ?
- Mass culture expects a more mediatised product?
Negative Speaker 3 - ?
- Performances have not been historically reliant on 'mediatisation'.
- Mediated and live are two separate things - because to have necessary mediated performance, we need to being with the life. Without the life there is not the possibility for the mediatised. The 'live' experience is a different experience than the mediatised.
CONCLUSION:
For me, the stronger team in the second debate was the Negative.
Reflections on Debate 1 (WEEK 3)
TOPIC:
"Live V Mediated... Performance is a 'competitive opposition at the level of cultural economy', not at the level of intrinsic or ontological differences."
DEBATE ONE:
Affirmative Speaker 1 - Liz
- Strong introduction outlining aims and arguments. Suggested the true live performance is 'rare' in our modern mediatised culture, allowing that viewers have become desensitised to the difference between live/recorded.
- Disappearance - the technical degradation of media, ie. videos degrading.
- Distinctions between live/recorded are historically embedded.
- Also suggested that the intimacy of live performance can be realised through the combination of live and pre-recorded media.
Negative Speaker 1 - Alice
- Good attempts to rebut Liz.
- Watching a live performance, we can choose where to look, we are not directed by the shot choices - 'live' enables individual choice of how to experience, whereas mediatised does not allow for such a choice.
Affirmative Speaker 2 - ?
- Good attempt to rebut, somewhat unconvincing.
- Argument based on ideas of interaction with new media, suggested again that live and mediated performance can be co-dependant, stemming from social and online interaction.
Negative Speaker 2 - Brent
- Strong rebuttal - remediation.
- Spoke about acting courses specifically tailored to TV, film or theatrical forms of acting.
- Immediacy and intimacy can be experienced in terms of performance with the crowd - what that shared experience brings to the piece.
Affirmative Speaker 3 - ?
- Rebutted by suggesting that mediation allows new avenues for live performances, ie. Skype.
- Supported big screens at concerts to allow viewers at back to see what's happening.
- Argued that our notions of live are shaped by our exposure to film and TV.
- Live performances have been influenced by film and TV - basically, there is a relationship of co-dependence. Both forms are mutually dependant - both remediate one another.
Negative Speaker 3 - Jan
- Argued that 'live' can exist without mediatised. The mediatised aspects of the live performance are used only to enhance the live experience.
- Short, abrupt ending (weakest speaker).
CONCLUSION:
For me, the stronger team in the first debate was the Affirmative.
May 25, 2010
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